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Title: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Mad Dog on September 01, 2009, 04:49:15 AM
QuoteEntertainment giant Walt Disney has agreed to buy Marvel Entertainment, whose stable of characters includes Spider Man, Iron Man and the X-Men, in a stock and cash deal valued at $US4 billion ($4.7 billion).

THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD!
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Big Ed Johnson on September 01, 2009, 06:36:20 AM
I dunno...  While it may sound almost "Naughty"  I could see 'lil 'ol Miley Cyrus donning an X-Men style suit... 

I have to go now, but I'll be back...  2 minutes...  I just need 2 minutes...
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Osbourne Kilminster on September 01, 2009, 07:28:49 AM
If Disney fire Joe Q and Jeph Loeb, I'll be a happy camper.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: silas on September 01, 2009, 11:53:18 AM
You would say that you wanker.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Osbourne Kilminster on September 01, 2009, 12:37:03 PM
Do not fucking tell me you're hanging off Loeb's shit-stained bell end...
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: silas on September 01, 2009, 04:25:57 PM
No, I just felt like arguing.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Mad Dog on September 01, 2009, 09:18:51 PM
I'm more like if they'd just kill the fans that like Deadpool and Gambit :P

They're niche characters at best.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Sinnybuns/Mika on September 01, 2009, 09:30:16 PM
I will cut your heart out with a spoon if you mention killing Gambit again. 

Why a spoon?

Because it's dull, you twit!  It'll hurt more!









...God I love Alan Rickman. 
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Tim on September 01, 2009, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on September 01, 2009, 09:18:51 PM
I'm more like if they'd just kill the fans that like Deadpool and Gambit :P

They're niche characters at best.

Can we not hate on Deadpool?  I mean, who cares about Gambit, but Deadpool, at the very least, is entertaining.

also, Jeph Loeb used to write good stuff...12 years ago.


And yeah, this buying out is gonna have little to no immediate effect, even the movie deals are staying in place for now.  The only thing happening soon I can imagine is possibly some disney theme marvel-printed books (Pirates of the Carribean, maybe?  Prince of Persia comics based on the upcoming movie?  Maybe the Incredibles?)

Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Dead Soul on September 02, 2009, 01:22:48 AM
Deadpool is awesome. Even his original character concept was awesome, which I imagine was discussed in an editorial meeting somewhat like this:

"Deathstroke is so lame."
"Yeah."
"We should parody that shit."
"What, like, make the exact same character and name him Wade Wilson, and make him even more over the top?"
"Brilliant! Now, go make more terrible art, Rob Liefeld!"

Agreed, though, that they need to can Quesada. How many major storylines does he have to fuck up before someone comes down on him hard? Seriously?
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Osbourne Kilminster on September 02, 2009, 02:27:34 AM
Who cares?

Thor > 99% of the entire Marvel Universe.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Tim on September 02, 2009, 03:51:22 AM
Quote from: Osbourne Kilminster on September 02, 2009, 02:27:34 AM
Who cares?

Thor > 99% of the entire Marvel Universe.

So, the only character marvel didn't legitimately make up on their own?

:P  ;)
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Osbourne Kilminster on September 02, 2009, 08:16:11 AM
Heh. Kinda.

Although Galactus trumps Unicron and anything DC ever pulled out of their ass.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Mad Dog on September 02, 2009, 09:10:24 AM
Quote from: Karrin Ennis on September 01, 2009, 10:53:58 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on September 01, 2009, 09:18:51 PM
I'm more like if they'd just kill the fans that like Deadpool and Gambit :P

They're niche characters at best.

Can we not hate on Deadpool?  I mean, who cares about Gambit, but Deadpool, at the very least, is entertaining.

also, Jeph Loeb used to write good stuff...12 years ago.


And yeah, this buying out is gonna have little to no immediate effect, even the movie deals are staying in place for now.  The only thing happening soon I can imagine is possibly some disney theme marvel-printed books (Pirates of the Carribean, maybe?  Prince of Persia comics based on the upcoming movie?  Maybe the Incredibles?)



OK but only because I think I will like DeadPool when I get to know him better.

Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Tim on September 03, 2009, 01:39:01 AM
Quote from: Osbourne Kilminster on September 02, 2009, 08:16:11 AM
Heh. Kinda.

Although Galactus trumps Unicron and anything DC ever pulled out of their ass.

Galactus is really, really lame.

Almost as lame as Darkseid.

Any all-powerful planet conquering or eating or destroying monsters make for boring-as-fuck uninteresting stories.

There's a reason DC's top hero (and arguably most popular and well-written hero in all of comics) has no superpowers.  Same reason why the most popular comic book villain of all time doesn't have super powers.

The stronger a character gets, the duller he/she becomes.  See: Superman.  See: Wolverine.  See: previously mentioned darkseid and galactus.

There are a couple exceptions, Wonder Woman has had some good stuff, but that's mostly from the feminist political issues and undertones.  Also, magneto and prof. x are both good characters despite their immense powers.  Still, as a general rule, super powerful heroes/villains suck.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Osbourne Kilminster on September 03, 2009, 02:14:31 AM
I couldn't disagree more.

FYI, Galactus is a primal cosmic force inherent to the fabric of our universe, but doesn't have a completely unblemished record. He does weaken, at times, and he's been beaten by the likes of Thor, Odin and Silver Surfer.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Tim on September 03, 2009, 03:24:17 AM
Quote from: Osbourne Kilminster on September 03, 2009, 02:14:31 AM
I couldn't disagree more.

FYI, Galactus is a primal cosmic force inherent to the fabric of our universe, but doesn't have a completely unblemished record. He does weaken, at times, and he's been beaten by the likes of Thor, Odin and Silver Surfer.

He eats planets.  I get it.  And he occasionally gets beaten by superheroes (as one would expect to happen in a superhero comic).

Still bores me to death.  Give me Gotham City over Galactus any day.

I should clarify that I'm not some DC fanboy hating on Marvel though.  I have a deep admiration for the Spiderman books and i read them a lot as a kid.  I also really liked the Ultimate Spider Man books (and the Ultimate books in general) up until the whole Ultimatum fiasco, which really just felt like a big mess.

And as I've already said, there are DC chars I have no love for either.  Ahem, Superman, Darkseid, etc.

Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Mad Dog on September 03, 2009, 05:28:34 AM
I hate crossovers (ones that force you to buy a title that you don't read)
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Osbourne Kilminster on September 03, 2009, 09:12:02 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on September 03, 2009, 05:28:34 AM
I hate crossovers (ones that force you to buy a title that you don't read)

Agreed!

I read the Ultimate books up until the point they starting jobbing Thor out like a little bitch. Made no sense to me. Oh, and they changed the nature of Galactus completely.

I'm not saying I dislike street-level characters by any means - Punisher rocks, even more so than Batman, IMHO.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: silas on September 03, 2009, 11:55:21 AM
Punisher eats dead children.

I love the Punisher.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Osbourne Kilminster on September 03, 2009, 12:05:56 PM
Dunno why you love him. He'd fuck you up before he even poured milk on his Coco Pops, just for fits and giggles. LOL
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Tim on September 03, 2009, 12:31:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on September 03, 2009, 05:28:34 AM
I hate crossovers (ones that force you to buy a title that you don't read)

Tend not to buy crossovers, unless they become heir own separate thing and feel significantly different than the titles they came from.  e.g. The Superman/Batman series DC produced for awhile had a legitimately different feel than either the solo bat-books or super-books.  The Civil War event made every marvel series feel different for awhile as well (Though that def fell into the category of making people buy shit they wouldn't normally read)

Ultimatum wasn't so much a crossover though as it was Jeph Loeb raping the entire Ultimate Universe and laughing about it the whole time.  Bastard.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Osbourne Kilminster on September 03, 2009, 02:03:18 PM
Are you following Dark Reign?
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Tim on September 03, 2009, 07:32:40 PM
Quote from: Osbourne Kilminster on September 03, 2009, 02:03:18 PM
Are you following Dark Reign?

Nope.  I have heard about it and hat it entails Norman Osbourn wielding a lot of power, which sounds interesting, but I haven't followed the main marvel storylines for quite some time.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Dead Soul on September 04, 2009, 01:22:37 AM
See, I love Galactus and Marvel's cosmic entities on a whole (the Infinity War and Infinity Gauntlet series in particular, where they show that even Galactus is neither all-powerful or even necessarily all that smart). It helps that those series created Thanos, in my opinion one of the best comic book villains that has ever existed. You have to be pretty badass to be immortal solely because Death doesn't want you in her realm (or you have to be Deadpool, who fucked the place up so much when he died that he's not allowed back).

But then I like the Batman vigilante-style anti-hero stories as much. Or even Spider-Man and Iron Man, to a lesser extent.

Basically, for my comic book stories, I want either people I can relate to, or fantastic beings beyond mortal ken.

Also, Exiles/Dr. Who dimension-hopping stories always catch my fancy.

Haven't really followed anything since the Civil War/Infinite Crisis time period, though, since that was when I stopped working at a bookstore.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Rex on September 06, 2009, 02:21:33 PM
Disney buying Marvel = WWE buying ecw and wcw which in return = the death of Marvel comics as we know it. We'll be seeing jonas brothers comics and hannah montana comics. that shit ain't worth reading IMO hehe.

my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Tim on September 06, 2009, 06:30:57 PM
Quote from: Rex on September 06, 2009, 02:21:33 PM
Disney buying Marvel = WWE buying ecw and wcw which in return = the death of Marvel comics as we know it. We'll be seeing jonas brothers comics and hannah montana comics. that shit ain't worth reading IMO hehe.

my 2 cents.

I highly doubt that will happen, at least not anytime soon.  Disney execs aren't quite as dumb as you think.  They know where there are potential for crossovers and where things should be left as they are.
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Dead Soul on September 06, 2009, 11:26:40 PM
We're talking about Disney here.

Say what you will about the Jonas Brothers, Hannah Montana, blah blah blah... Disney is making money HAND OVER FIST by doing what it does best: pandering to its audience.

All it means at Marvel, after some initial growing pains, is that they will continue to do what they have always done, or even *gasp* get better, because that's what the market wants. You'll just see even more merchandising (not that Marvel wasn't all about that to begin with).
Title: Re: Disney buys Marvel
Post by: Mad Dog on September 09, 2009, 02:24:56 AM
So what's next for Disney, Mattel?

Probably all ready own it.